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New York Liberty Championship Journey and the WNBA's Bright Future
What if Sabrina Ionescu’s performance could redefine grit in basketball, drawing parallels with legends like Kobe Bryant? Join us as we navigate the exhilarating journey of the New York Liberty's 2024 WNBA Championship victory. We dissect Sabrina’s vital role as a point guard, even when her shots didn’t fall, and how players like Jonquel Jones emerged as game-changers. The conversation delves into team dynamics, exploring the power of collective play over individual stardom, and the seamless officiating that complemented this intense series.
As the WNBA offseason looms, we turn our thoughts to the shifting landscape of free agency. Imagine the impact of potential moves by stars like Kelsey Plum and Elena Delle Donne on teams hungry for victory. We question the strategies that might unfold as teams like the Las Vegas Aces seek additional firepower, while defensive teams gear up to challenge New York Liberty's dominance. Speculations abound about how these shifts could alter the balance of power within the league, setting the stage for a thrilling season ahead.
Finally, we shine a spotlight on the future stars of the WNBA, including rookies Carmella Cardoza and Angel Reese, and the dynamic potential they bring to the Chicago Sky. With debates on their respective strengths and the role of team environments in nurturing talent, we consider how these rising stars might evolve. Celebrating the electrifying presence of current league icons like Courtney Williams, Arike Ogunbowale, and Breanna Stewart, the episode wraps with a reflection on the excitement these players inject into the game, promising fans a spectacular future for women’s basketball.
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What's up everybody. It's your favorite show, favorite show, get a Bucket. I'm your host, trey.
Speaker 2:I'm back. It's your host, chris, on a trial basis and, as y'all can, see, see, right there.
Speaker 1:That's why we kicked him off the first time. Too much vulgarity. Y'all know, Nick. Y'all seen him before. You know he was the one that was slandering Josh Giddy. Nick, how's everything with you? To be fair though, he's a Bulls fan. Yeah, that was the main reason why, but it's not the only.
Speaker 4:I still stand by what I said. I take back absolutely nothing. I want to apologize to absolutely nobody. I'll try to keep it PG, but let's hope Josh Giddey does too.
Speaker 1:That's fair, that's fair, that's fair, that's a fair request. I think that's a fair request, right? So? What we're going to do y'all see the jersey? Right, y'all hear the banter. So we're going to talk about basketball, but it's about the jersey, because we got to give some love to the New York Liberty for winning the championship for 2024 jersey. Because we got to give some love to the New York Liberty for winning the championship for 2024.
Speaker 1:But we also got to give the women some love for actually playing a phenomenal season too, and bringing more views, more eyes, more entertainment to our lovely hearts. So, fellas, I mean y'all about ready? Yeah, all right, good. Well, let's go ahead and kick it off. Y'all know we? Yeah, all right, good, well, let's go ahead and kick it off. Y'all know what we're talking about WNBA, all right, ladies and gentlemen. So, like I said, y'all see the jersey. You know what I mean. And underneath it, fun fact, I have a Kevin Durant shirt. Unfortunately, I didn't feel as compelled to wear it, at least display it too much, because KD and Kyrie couldn't get the job done the way Sabrina and Brianna Stewart and John Quell and them girls did. They made New York relevant. That's something that ain't been done since 73. You know what I'm saying. Shout out to New York. Did y'all enjoy the finals for the WNBA?
Speaker 4:absolutely yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:I mean, finals was incredibly fun so what I'm hearing is y'all ain't have no gripes with the WNBA finals that's cool. That's what I wanted to know, so y'all was cool the refs did they thing, stewie and them was fine, like y'all ain't have no issues with nothing.
Speaker 4:I mean, the only issue I might have is I ain't asking you when I'm missing 18 shots, but, like listen, she made the one when it mattered the most in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1:Well, not that game, not that game. But, nick, not in that game, even in that game.
Speaker 4:The 1-3 she made was key in them coming back from that deficit. So listen, if you miss 18 shots and you win the championship, nobody's complaining.
Speaker 1:Nice Well some people do complain.
Speaker 1:Some people have complained, right, but I want you, nick, to look at your right brother real quick. You see that man right there. Kobe did in fact, miss 18 shots, ladies and gentlemen, in the finals game seven. And here's the crazy thing we don't slander him because, oh well, he got 20-plus points and he got 11 rebounds on 15 or whatever it was. Well, if you look at someone like Sabrina Ionescu, she got seven rebounds, if I'm not mistaken, and then eight assists and again she's a point guard Two turnovers. So that's a really good assist-to-turnover ratio. Fold them more. That means every four assists she got one turnover. Yes, you would like to see more than 18 field goals missed, but I ain't mad at their performance because it showed me, and it should show everybody else, there's more things to win. There's more things you can do outside of just scoring to help your team win a game someone's always got to step up.
Speaker 4:You know, if somebody's not making a shot, someone's got to step up. Kobe had Powell, you know.
Speaker 1:Sabrina had John Quayle exactly and I'm glad you brought up John Quayle too, because we've talked about her before as the X Factor and stuff like that Do you believe that Jonquil can repeat this performance going forward, or was this more of a favorable matchup for her?
Speaker 4:Well, I mean, what did I say before the season we were talking about? Can anybody beat the Aces is? I said, listen, if Jonquil Jones steps up this year, they need her to be able to step up to go up against the you know, the other great big men and big women in WNBA. And I mean, that's what she did. She went down there, she, you know she knocked heads in the paint. She got some key buckets, you know, inside she even stepped out, tried to give some spacing when they needed it. She stepped up and they're champions as a result.
Speaker 1:Okay, so there's no cons for the pro in Jonquil Jones. I hear you. I hear you. You're looking a little bit like I don't know. You seem a little bit like finals, won't that appeal to me Like what's up? Talk to me, champ. What's wrong? Ain't nothing wrong Are you sure, because I don't know, bro, you looking a little hurt right now.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:So everything in the finals was good for you, Minus us.
Speaker 2:Shout out to Starbucks, I guess, sponsor, sponsor. The only thing that I can say caught my eye just a little bit was how their officiation was for all five games.
Speaker 1:You think it was bad all five games or good all five games Overall? It was good five games, okay, okay, did they have a bad game for you, officiating-wise? Yes, they did. Which ones? The game?
Speaker 2:five, so the last one yes.
Speaker 1:Y'all got close.
Speaker 2:No, because Y'all got close. Just hear me out. Because the way that Minnesota was like mugging it out, mugging it out and mugging it out from like for like throughout the whole game and literally made it into the overtime, coach from Lincoln said Coach from Lincoln said that at best they took that shit away from us and honestly, I 1,000, I 1,000 agree because it was some cause. It was some cause that. It was some cause that winning New York way it should have went in Minnesota way. But other than that, it was a tremendous, tremendous, tremendous finals. So to be clear.
Speaker 1:So you're saying the officiating is the reason why the Liberty are champions now?
Speaker 2:is that what you're saying? I'm not saying that. That's one of the main reasons I'm saying, like the Liberty was, was the embedded team. From like start, start to finish, they wanted more, they wanted it more, they wanted it more. At least they do?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know if they wanted it more. Now, bro, in terms of officiating, I've heard the narrative that they were robbed right. Yes, they were robbed. I don't think they were robbed. Going back to the play that we all were looking at right robbed right, I don't think they were robbed. Going back to the play that we all were looking at right, breanna Stewart drives, gets fouled by, I believe, alana Smith, and we looked at that play. Ladies and gentlemen, we looked at this play so extensively okay.
Speaker 1:Because, we had to see. Did she actually foul her? There are multiple camera angles and ultimately, I think we all assessed that A she was fouled her. There were multiple camera angles and ultimately, I think we all assessed that A she was fouled. Actually, we said that. I don't know if you actually said whether or not she was fouled. She was fouled. So for me, I thought the officiating was good enough. Both sides had missed calls. Go their way. Like game four. You could say there was some missed calls and the Lynx happened to win Game five. You want to say the same thing happened, but okay, cool, but it happened both ways. So for me I thought it was fine. I liked the finals. It was a rough and rugged series overall. I didn't think it would go five until I found out that you know what. This is going to be the last game five we're going to have Because their next season is going to be a possible game seven.
Speaker 1:So that made me think it might go five, but it wasn't because of the teams, and you said something about the Liberty being the best team and I think talent-wise they have the best starting five. They do have the best team, but I think in terms of cohesion I might lean the Lynx just because they were a well-oiled machine offensively and defensively. And, like you were alluding to earlier, the Liberty had some lapses on defense, like Navisa Collier scoring early on back-to-back plays where I'm like hey, yo in the game five.
Speaker 2:I say like in the game five, like Minnesota literally blessed them. I mean they blessed them and then and New York find a way to like again, mugging it out, mugging it out and mugging it out, to literally even A get back, a to get back into the game and B push it into overtime.
Speaker 1:I wonder where this is ultimately going to be ranked in terms of WNBA finals, because these were the top two teams in the season. They met for the Commissioner Cup. The Lynx won the Commissioner Cup, liberty won the championship. So I think all of these things factored in. Stewie was the reigning MVP. They were in the finals. Last year. Nafisa could have won MVP and Depoy when we think about it Like that was a possibility because she was number two in MVP.
Speaker 4:Was she number two in Depoy as well? No, she won Depoy. Oh, she won Depoy. Oh, there you go.
Speaker 1:So, like, in terms of rankings, like Caleb and Brian was there, Cord Kings. Like Caleb McBride was there, Cordy Williams played well. Like I wonder where this is going to rank in terms of WNBA finals across the board. So I, because, like we all said, it was very entertaining and I think it put it's put the WNBA on quite a pedestal for me personally, quite personally. But I mean, ladies and gentlemen, I don't want to harp too, too long because y'all, y'all heard the buzzer just sound. We're going to keep it structured, we're going to keep it timely. You know what I'm saying. But we do have more basketball to come back to and talk about. So y'all see, the Blue Devils Just wanted to give us a shout-out when we come back. Wow, I mean you got a Blue Devil shirt on right there.
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Speaker 1:All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back. Listen, we talked about the Liberty right, yes or no? Do y'all got them winning this upcoming season? They just won before yes or no. Nick, we'll start with you. Since you guessed, I'll take the field on that.
Speaker 4:Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:With Stewie, yes, and without Stewie, no Interesting. With Stewie, yes, without Stewie, absolutely not.
Speaker 1:That's an interesting statement. Okay, I like them. I like them. I'm going to say they can win it back to back. They're my favorites right now, and it's not just because they won it, it's again the construction. I think Jonquil can repeat what she did, phoebus is what's helpful too, and the bench seems good enough. I expect a little jump from Nayara Sabali next season. Not a massive jump, but her confidence into next season, I think, is going to be good. This will be a good offseason for her, so I do think that Liberty can run it back. You said the field, though. Is there anybody in the field that stands out to you then?
Speaker 4:I mean, we saw from this from the past couple years now the wmba, where defense can get you a long way and get you a good chance, you know the sun, as long as they're able to keep that squad together, obviously. But I know there's a lot of pieces that are potentially moving on, depending on what the organization wants to do as well. Right, um, but the links were Right. But the Lynx were also, I think, number two in defense or in defensive rating. As long as you have a good defensive foundation in the playoffs, especially you can, it'll always give you a chance to break through. And I think the finals, especially game five, was a testament to how important team play is. Even for the New York Liberty, who you would think was a summation of individuals, like their big stars, weren't playing well. I don't remember what Stewie and Inescu went combined, I think it was. You know a little for a lot. You know shots made, shots attempted, but they were still able to pull it out.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they were able to pull it out, going 5-34. Meanwhile, the Lynx yes, they had Nafisa Collier, who is their number one go-to, but they were able to get a bunch of different contributions from a bunch of different places, a lot of different pieces, and it's a testament to how important team play is at all levels of basketball. So I think that it's tough to ask. We've seen New York be somewhat unreliable in the playoffs in years before and they're finally able to break through. Great for them. But anything can happen and obviously this upcoming offseason is going to be very potentially turbulent and have a lot of things happen. So that's why I would be betting the field, I think, if I had to give anybody a chance. If all the teams stay relatively the same, I think New York probably has the best chance of any other team, but I don't think it's more than a 50% chance. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1:So you like New York, but you also feel like, too, the defensive teams. I'm going to give them a run for their money. They do say, offense sells tickets, defense wins championships. Liberty does have both, but so do some other teams. Though Chris, you're looking a little quiet, no chance. Shout out to the blue doubles that you got there, reppin us. What's your stop touching shirt? What's?
Speaker 4:your.
Speaker 1:Who's your other? Right, we said, we said Liberty, but who's your other? Who's your other if you got a squad? Let's watch this one I got the Aces, aces okay, aces Okay. I mean, they were back-to-back champions, so that is okay. That is it. Is there any particular reason why?
Speaker 2:Because, besides like a couple teams, the Aces is probably like the only team that has like an actual structure front office, coach and players and teams, unless I say they still got their pieces left. That could make one more run. But, like I said, like we was talking on and doing a pre-show, I feel like they need another go get ashow. I feel like they need another go-get-a-bucket, like I love Kelsey.
Speaker 2:Hold on hold on, hold on. No, no, no, paul, Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, hold up. I said. I said, just hear me out. They got four all-stars, just hear me out, okay.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, my fault, my fault. Please continue to explain how this team can get away with cheating. Go ahead.
Speaker 3:Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Okay, or else they're going to trade away a piece Like they're going to get another bucket.
Speaker 4:That is just I mean what they have the most dominant score in the game right now.
Speaker 1:Physically dominant scoring yeah, they have the most dominant score in the game right now Physically dominant scoring yeah, that could be an arguable discussion. She's out there, though, at minimum top three.
Speaker 1:But, no, yeah, aja Wilson's there. Chelsea gives you at least 15 to 18. Jackie gives you that Chelsea, on a bad year, didn't do what she should have or could have. But again, she was injured too, though. So I don't know. You're saying another bucket getter. That's again just be clear. Are you saying add an additional player or trade one of those players? I'll say add another player. I don't know who or what you can bring back.
Speaker 2:Okay, because it's because Kelsey I mean because Plum is a free agent. Now, does she want to stay? Does she want to stay? That's the thing. Does she want to stay and run that and run that and co-heat your back, or would you want to go to another team and get paid?
Speaker 1:more. Okay, so let's do this, then let's do this, then let's look at the WNBA free agency list. Right, so we got, because we mentioned a couple of teams, because, for example, even my squads that I would pick, I would love to say teams like the Wings, like the Storm, like the Mercury Problem is all of those teams got question marks at this very current point in time, like I don't know who's going to stay, who's going to go. So, for the free agency upcoming right now point in time, atlanta Dreams is about to lose Tina Charles potentially We'll see what shakes Kennedy Carter she could be leaving your sky Alyssa Thomas and DeJuan Abano, I believe, for the Sun free agents.
Speaker 3:Satu.
Speaker 1:Sabali off the Dallas Wings, kelsey Mitchell off the Indiana Fever, kelsey Plum, like you said, for the Aces, and then Ari McDonald off the Sparks, natasha Heideman off the Lynx, brianna Stewart off the Liberty. It's kind of crazy when you think about it. We got here Brittany grinder for the mercury, neck aguma K for the store, elena Della dawn for the mystics, and that one could be used to like. There's a lot of there's a lot of players which we talked about.
Speaker 1:Okay, a bucket getter, they they brought, they brought in CP before. Does Elena D delladon want to move to the to las vegas? Now we've seen her because moved to the mystics because of her family? Yeah, so that's the question about also her injury history too. But if you go to a team like the aces or maybe a team like the storm or whomever, maybe a team like the sun you could use because they don't need a big, they need more shooting, they need more guards, so maybe that could make a thing like, maybe that can make something interesting. There's a few teams that I can see like with the right trades, they could definitely make some noise and I'm very interested over this offseason. That's something we got to follow for certain. Um, what's one player, one destination y'all want to see people go to?
Speaker 4:what's one player, one destination y'all want to see people go to? I mean, I've been a. You know my parents went to Delaware, so I've always been a big Elena Deladon fan. Okay, and like, if you're the Aces and you're thinking of taking a huge swing to try to get back on top of that mountain and Elena Delgado is able to, because obviously she has her sister I think it's her sister who has the she's helping her with health issues If she's able to make that work and she wants to come back, because that's also a big if and she's able to stay healthy, that's a huge difference maker. As you said, the Aces they need some, you know, some, consistent shooting, and I mean not many have done it better than Elena Deledon, so that would be an interesting pairing.
Speaker 1:That would be a heck of a swing. If you can pair Asia and Elena Deledon, I got to see how the money would work Exactly. There's a lot of things going to happen, yeah, but that would be an interesting pairing. Chris, who's a pairing for you Again on the free agency list? And then, what team would you want to see him go to?
Speaker 2:You know, I would love to see Tina go to Seattle.
Speaker 4:If they lose Necker, what better big you can get than Tina?
Speaker 2:You think Tina's better than Brittany Griner right now? Cool, that's a damn good question.
Speaker 1:I was going to say hold on, don't do that. Don't do that. I like Tina, but don't do that now. That's a damn good question, because one I don't know if BG leaves.
Speaker 2:I think she leaves.
Speaker 4:That would be interesting, though. Potential free agent is all I'm saying.
Speaker 1:No, no, no. That would be interesting though, because, let's say, dt retires which I do believe she is going to retire you gotta think how far can the Mercury go? What can you bring back to the table? Bg Kalia Copper, that's a solid building block right there. Someone like someone like Satu Sabali you able to get someone like her block right there. Someone like Someone like Satu Sabali you able to get someone like her? That's a.
Speaker 4:Or you could just go full. That's a nice little. You could just go full big just for For the very least, for the memes, and just get Tina Charles and Brittany Griner on the same team.
Speaker 1:They've tried that before with Tina Charles, with Mercury, and it didn't really work out too well, yeah, somebody already thought of this. Okay, well, they didn't pair them together, they didn't play together. It was when BG was in Russia at the time.
Speaker 3:Oh, I see.
Speaker 4:I don't think Tina's going to spend the ball Negative spacing, but you'll get all the rebounds. I don't think negative spacing.
Speaker 1:I actually like the idea of BG and Tina Charles on the same squad because they can actually shoot the ball Like. Tina and BG can both shoot threes and mid-ranges and be on the block. Really Okay, I have not been thinking that.
Speaker 3:No, no, there you go.
Speaker 1:Now the frequency we got to talk about. But they're competent shooters, brittany's a shooter now Like a little bit, yeah, BG B Brittany's a shooter. Now Like a little bit, yeah, BG, BG, BG. When we're talking about shooters, I'm not talking about elite like no, yeah, I'm not talking about I'm talking about a competent three-point shooter that you have to guard. You can't just leave her butt naked open at three-point line.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so we don't need you know we're talking about big men. We don't need them to all be like Brooke Lopez. They can be like Miles Turner.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I think Tina Charles could be like a Brooke Lopez in terms of a scorer.
Speaker 3:Out there.
Speaker 1:So again, that pairing, I think, does work and that also made me believe in that ability before the whole Russia situation came across Like, alright, if we could pair this, that'd be nice, I'd like that. So if we could get something like that, I'd like to see BG become a contender again because I still believe she's the most dominant physically, the most physically dominant player in the WNBA at 6'9". Being that height, it helps a lot. It does. It really does. Someone like Asia might work out a little bit more than her too. So that helps Asia out in comparison. So I would love to see Brittany Griner go somewhere and possibly make some noise and do something shake. But I also love her paired with Kalia Copper. But BG would be my person to move. I'm just torn where I'd want to ultimately see her go to.
Speaker 2:A sneaking one. Kelsey Mitchell, a perfect team. Just a thought just roll with me, kelsey Mitchell, in New York. I want him for the Boston team. I no longer roll with him, new York, what Liberty.
Speaker 1:I don't know if they'd be able to do that, they'd have to lose somebody, and I don't know who you want to lose. To be honest with you, I also don't know if the Fever want to give up Kelsey Mitchell with the year that she had with the trio. If you're a statistician, she was second on your team in win shares. You know what I'm saying. She's a solid future building block for them personally. So now you like win shares? No, I use win shares in a video that I've done for the MVP. I think you should factor that in. It just shouldn't be the sole reason why somebody should win it. No, I get you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so, but I mean, we talked about See, when I say statistics, it's like I'll make it so.
Speaker 1:You can't focus solely on statistics, See I'm Next.
Speaker 4:I'll make it with the statistics.
Speaker 1:See someone out there is clearly someone out there clearly don't want us to get into a stats competition right there. Y'all heard the buzzer.
Speaker 1:That's what, unfortunately, what we got to do is take a quick hiatus, pay some bills. We're going to come right back, though. Hopefully he gets the stats out of his system and then we can talk a little bit more hoops. He said never, but, ladies and gentlemen, I hope you all enjoyed it thus far and we will be right back after a moment from our sponsors, and we will be right back after a moment from our sponsors.
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Speaker 1:All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back. Hey look, y'all don't believe we actually be leaving and going nowhere. Y'all saw I went to my chick for late because he got his stuff. You know what I'm saying. Chris said he didn't want to spend no money, he got water. You know what I'm saying? Free 99 is the best policy. I ain't mad at that. I ain't mad at that. But look refreshing, just like these rookies for the WNBA. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I think a lot of people saw this year, and they saw Kaitlyn Clark, angel Reese. There's some other rookies, though, that are actually quite phenomenal. Matter of fact, fun fact, cameron Brink was actually leading the Rookie of the Year race at the beginning of the season. So I wonder if Kaitlyn would have been Rookie of the Year if Cameron was. So I wonder if it. I wonder if Kaitlyn would have been rookie of the year if Cameron was still there. I wonder. Or you know Rekia Jackson, because she was on my squad too. Hey, you did make a nice little statement before the season about Camila Cardoza. Like, there are a lot of the rookies, ladies and gentlemen, to focus on.
Speaker 1:Maybe a lot was a little strong there are other rookies to focus on outside of Angel and Kaitlyn, Nick, let's bring it to your attention because you are a Chicago Sky fan. So you got two of the rookies that we've at least should be highlighting in Angel Reese and Camila Cardoza, and you said at the beginning of the season will Angel Reese be the rookie of the year for the Sky? Do you feel like that statement is still in question today?
Speaker 4:I think Camila still has the highest potential of the two. Okay, but I mean, when I said Angel Reese could be like an Andre Drummond type, I didn't know. She was literally going to go out there and be the.
Speaker 4:Andre Drummond type right away. So I still think Cardoza has the best potential of the two, but right now it seems like Angel Reese is playing better. It should be mentioned that Cardoza dealt with injuries to begin the year and maybe that doesn't help when you're a rookie. You have to wait a few weeks to get your welcome to the league moments but kind of stunts the growth a little bit. But hopefully she'll get back on track after next year. Show what she did at South Cal. Show what she did at South Cal.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay. It's interesting because you're a stat guy, yeah, and it sounds like you're leaning Angel Reese right now for the best player.
Speaker 4:Right right.
Speaker 1:I'm not talking about right now. I'm talking about right now You're defending his girl. I appreciate that. Shout out to Carmilla Cardoso. Here's the thing, because you love stats, we're talking about win shares and Carmilla actually beats out Angel Reese in the win shares 2.8 to 2.7.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:So hearing something like that also, you know 14 points, 13 rebounds for Angel Reese, and then we have 10 points and 8 rebounds for Carmelo Cardoza. But then, if we go to the defensive side, .5 steals and blocks. I mean .5 steals and 1.4 blocks as opposed to oops, sorry, clicked the wrong tab as opposed to 1.3 steals and 5 blocks.
Speaker 4:So hearing those stats does that sway you any, as opposed to 1.3 steals and 0.5 blocks. So hearing those stats, does that sway you any?
Speaker 1:Was the blocks, the one with the 1.4 blocks was that?
Speaker 4:That was Cardoza. Yeah, so Cardoza has right now a little bit. She has more experience. She's also the defensive anchor. She has more experience in that role, whereas Angel was sort of a utility. Whereas Angel was sort of a utility, has always been sort of a utility, big forward. And yeah, it's interesting that despite the injuries, cottoza still put up as many wins as she did, and especially since there wasn't a lot of wins to share about with the Sky last year. But I mean sort of more to my point of, yeah, angel Reese out of the box was probably better than Cordoza, at least at the very beginning of the season.
Speaker 2:Okay, but Cordoza definitely is.
Speaker 4:if she continues to improve the way she had been throughout the season. Okay, and I think, if we're really trying to figure out which of the two is better, I think that's just an all-win situation. No, no, I'm saying just to be clear.
Speaker 1:I mean, after you're hearing those stats and I know you were kind of saying Angel was leading, but it didn't seem like it was much Does that make you shift your answer any after hearing those stats now, like present?
Speaker 4:day. No, I like that. Both of them are on the sky and I think that Cardoza's going to be a future star in the league and Angel's going to be a very important figure on basketball teams, not just off the court but on the court, with her ability to rebound the way that she does. Some of those offensive rebounds need to be other people's misses, but like I mean even.
Speaker 1:I mean that's a factual statement, but at the same time I don't want to harp too much on it, because I think the narrative gets spun like oh, that's the reason why she was a leading rebounder, and it's not.
Speaker 1:Because even if you factor those away, she was still a top-tier rebound, I think, number two behind Asia Wilson, which I mean is nothing to scoff at. But you said something about potential. Chris, I kind of want to get you into the mix about this one, because I think you might be a little biased, right, because you love your bigs and I don't think you look at Angel Reese as a big. He said potential. He said you call her forward. A lot of times I didn't hear big too much. I said he called me big forward, see, but you don't call Carmela Cardoza that, but you give her that little. You know what I'm saying differentiator. But, chris, real quick, potential-wise, do you feel that Carmela Cardoza has more potential than Angel Reese?
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't know. To me, I just you. I feel like Chicago definitely got two of the biggest deals. Two of the biggest deals, okay, in the draft they drafted well, yeah, yes, they did. I feel like Angel is the better player, but Cadoza got the better ceiling. The only reason why I say that is because Cadoza can block shots compared to Angel Reese she can't. Cadoza can block shots compared to Angel Reese she can't. Both of them can rebound at a good rate. I feel like Cadoza has the better ceiling, but she's not. I'm trying to use my words right, trying to use it right.
Speaker 1:I don't see her being on that same page as Angel, I'm confused. Now You're saying that she has the same. She has a higher ceiling. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:Cordoza has a higher season than Angel, but Angel is the better overall player.
Speaker 1:Okay, so a couple of things. My answer is this, ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to just cut straight to it. I think Angel Reese has the more potential, has the higher potential. Really, yeah, do you think Angel can have?
Speaker 4:a complete offensive game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do has a high potential. Yeah, I think a. I think Angel Reese can be like a wing or a big. When we're talking about from a scoring perspective. She's shown you that she can at least get 14 points inefficiently, like when we talk about supporting cast. Look at a Caitlinlyn Clark, for example. We have two all-stars. We don't have that same level of assistance. And she's also it's her rookie year too.
Speaker 1:I do expect her to get better at shooting. I can see her playmaking a little bit Now. I am curious about the assist turnover ratio from her standpoint, but I don't see Carmela Cardoza assisting the ball like that. I don't see Carmela Cardoza being the playmaker, yeah. So I don't see anything that Carmela Cardoza is doing that Angel Reese can't do Scoring, rebounding, blocks. I hear you on the 1.4, and you said she can't, meaning Angel can't block, but she gave .5. So to all the mathematicians, that rounds up to 1. So we're talking about 1 to 1.4 blocks. If we're talking about rounding up, I'm talking about Like to me, I think she is capable of blocking the ball and again, because she can be a forward, I think she can actually guard smaller players and she's 6'2 and lanky. She can't block shots, now Against a big. Okay, I can hear you on the north.
Speaker 4:I don't know if that's fair on the .5 blocks.
Speaker 1:Well, she's playing on the interior, but if Cardoza's there, she doesn't have to play on the interior.
Speaker 4:So let me ask you this Can you tell me what their free throw percentages are? Because this was what I was curious about.
Speaker 1:Cardoza's is 73, and Angel's is and I'm rounding up, by the way and Angel's is 74.
Speaker 4:Okay, very similar free throw. So this is something that one looks at when you're talking about potential to be a shooter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I look at the same thing.
Speaker 4:I've always watched Angel and I'm like is she ever going to have a reliable jump shot?
Speaker 1:I think the jump shot can be reliable. I genuinely do. Using Cameron Brink I'm not trying to harp too too much on this guy, but using Cameron Brink and your free throw thing as an example. I've looked at her because her shooting wasn't wasn't the best. I would like to see a little bit more, but also I'm expecting a little slow.
Speaker 2:Start from ricky's right.
Speaker 1:You got to get your strength up exactly um, but I think because of her free throw percentage I think her mechanics are good enough where I'm like her shot can drop yeah, it's all about touch.
Speaker 1:And I look at Angel Reese's shot in a similar manner. She hitches it right here and shoots it Now because of her athleticism and speed and quickness. If they don't, if they give her the shot, she can take it. But she should feel comfortable taking it, because if not, you could actually just blow by. And that's why I'm waiting to see the next step, which is, alright, the decision making, because once you blow by, they're already double teaming you. So when you get there, alright, just slow down and make that next extra little read. Either you go up with it or you kick it out. But you should also know that too, before you actually make the move. But that I believe she can be more of a complete player, and I think someone like a Cameron Brink has more upside as well, because, again, they are able to be versatile. She can guard the bigs and she's at least projected to be able to guard the forwards as well. Cardoza, she's paying to be more of that interior presence, yeah, so that's why I'm thinking.
Speaker 4:I mean Brink is the third pick, right, second second pick. Well, that's why you know she's. I mean Cameron Brink has oh, from from the very little, unfortunately, that we saw, she has such an incredible. I think the shot will come eventually. I think I have no hesitations about that. She's got I mean she's got so much in terms of the ability to shoot off the dribble, shoot from a set, just score. She's got a serious. She's got, as they say, a bag. She has everything at her disposal. She can find a shot from just about any spot on the floor and when you can do that as a rookie especially like that's important. The efficiency needs to improve, but that will come do you got chris?
Speaker 1:let me ask you this. Let me ask you this do you think cameron brink reminds you of chet holmgren? And I know when some people, when some people hear this, right, they're going to go immediately to the skin complexion. Oh, you're saying that because they're like no, not at all. Not at all. They're both thin. They both are supposed to be skilled scorers who use their length to shot block. Cameron Brink was one of the leading shot blockers in the league. Chet Holmgren was one of the leading shot blockers in the league and I think over time, the expectation is they're going to get stronger and the skilled game is going to improve. Is that fair to say that Cameron Brink is similar to a Chet Holmgren for you?
Speaker 2:That's fair.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, that's fair. Who do you think is going to and let me choose my words carefully reach their potential first? Would it be Cameron Brink, or would it be someone like a Chet Holmgren? And I'm curious, why do you feel that way? Because and the reason why I'm asking this is is this something that's based on the player or is this something based on the situation?
Speaker 2:if I'm looking at the situation, I definitely want to say Chad Holmgren, because he's in a good system, he's in a good foundation.
Speaker 1:Okay, If it was a player, out of curiosity, if you were just focusing solely on the player, not the system there, who do you think would reach their potential quicker? Would it be Cameron or Chet? Yeah, definitely Chet, definitely Chet. So Chet for both sides, okay. Okay, I'm going to swing the question to you then. Which one do you feel like wins that? Is it Chet from a situation or Cameron from a situation? Or which one from a situation?
Speaker 4:Let or Cameron from the situation, or which one from the situation.
Speaker 1:Let's start with that which one has the better situation which one would reach their potential quicker, given the situation.
Speaker 4:I definitely think it's Chet. Obviously, someone like Chet is not going to have the statistics, because there's so many. He has Jacobs Alexander, two Jason Williams he has two of them and so many great players around him. You're not going to see it in the statistics, but in terms of being able to develop, he's going to have the freedom, he's not going to have as much pressure to reach that level, and so he'll be able to do it. Naturally, I think he's much more assured to reach that, whereas I think when you're playing for a team that's not winning a lot, there is a potential to get bad habits and there's potential to sort of fall into that Like. Prime example is you know, cade Cunningham went into college. He was.
Speaker 1:I gotta stop you there.
Speaker 4:Well, let me finish before you.
Speaker 1:It's the environment that you're talking about. That's the reason why I was going to say I got to stop you there. I wouldn't say our environment is similar to theirs.
Speaker 4:No, what I said was when I say that your habits change as a player is as a high schooler. Cade Cunningham had incredible I mean still does, but he had incredible playmaking promise. He goes to Oklahoma State and he's really the most reliable player on that team.
Speaker 3:Best player, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and easily the only reliable scorer on that team Right right, so he really turned into a shot first and second kind of guy. Then he goes to Detroit and they didn't have Jalen Duren at the time, so they didn't have the pieces around him. They didn't have Jalen Duren at the time, so they didn't have the pieces around him. They didn't have great shooters either. So Cade Cunningham would work best in this sort of heliocentric, high pick-and-roll system, and that's not what existed with the Pistons.
Speaker 4:So now he's still a good passer, but instead of at this point I would think he would be averaging like seven, eight assists. He's more in the five or six range. And he would be averaging like seven, eight assists. He's more in like the five or six range. And I'm not saying like you get completely changed or corrected as a player. I'm just saying when you're in certain situations that require you to exemplify one thing more than being an all-around player, someone like Cameron Brink they might need Cameron Brink to score and she won't be able to develop as much the playmaking aspect because she doesn't have the freedom to do so. I don't think she.
Speaker 1:I think you're focusing too much on that playmaking aspect. I don't even think Chet Holmgren needs to play.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying no, no, no.
Speaker 1:I'm saying because when we're thinking, when I'm looking at these players in their situations, y'all are right, I'm glad you brought up how you're not on a team with an established environment, right, right. But I also think too, that kind of pushes you to either be the girl on the squad, like be the woman you know what I'm saying or you're going to be a role player, and this is now time for Cameron Brink to showcase why she should be the best player. So, even with the injury, right, okay, I'm going to give her about two seasons to come back into shape and really get on track, because you got to get the rust off. You also got to battle Paige Beckers, potentially. You also got to battle Rekia Jackson, who was balling in as another rookie. So I mean, I like Cameron Brink's potential to get to her potential quicker than someone like Chet Holmgren, because Chet already has to battle out Shea Gildress, alexander MVP Candidate like number two. I thought he should have been MVP last season.
Speaker 1:Then you also got to do Jalen Williams. So right now, Chet Holmgren has to, at best case, be third option on his team. That's the role he's training for right now. Cameron Brink could potentially be the one option on our team.
Speaker 4:Do you like Cameron Brink as ideally as the C, or would you prefer her as the 4?
Speaker 1:I like her as the 4 right now? Yeah, because strength-wise she's not ready for that. I think someone like Azaree Stephens would be a good example for her to kind of learn from, because she's still slender but plays that center position but she was also able to stretch the floor out. And then also pairing her with Rekia Jackson. I would be interested to see if Rekia could ever run that fourth spot, that power forward position. We play small ball, because then if we get a couple of shooters, all right, we're looking nice. Or if Rekia can just stay at the two or three option I mean shooting guard to small forward, cool. We can get a power forward then or maybe a bigger forward to pair. Now we've got someone at 6'4" all the way to 6'0" being our guard, and I'm factoring in we got Paige as the number one pick and we got her. That's the reason why I say that. So I like that lineup personally Because we're skilled and we're defensive minded.
Speaker 1:He's already tanking no we got the number one pick. We were the worst team record-wise, yeah, so we should fingers crossed we should get Paige Beckers because of this draft. But there's a lot of rookies to actually it's a lot of entertainment to think about with these rookies, to figure out, to wonder about with these rookies.
Speaker 4:You'll get Azzy fun and you'll like it.
Speaker 1:I got to wait and see. I got to wait and see. Paige has been a little healthier than AZ. I can't hold her, but that was, yeah. I would love to see about AZ yeah, az's good. I would love to see about AZ yeah, az's good. Olivia Miles is good too. There's some upcoming WNBA rookies that we all should be paying attention to. I'm not going to lie to you, but the buzzer did kind of just go off, so what we got to do, apparently, is take a quick little hiatus, pay some bills. Come right back, though, and we'll talk about more sports. So we'll be right back after a moment from our sponsors, thank you.
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Speaker 1:All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back. Look, y'all heard the episode. Right, we done. Well, we didn't talk about the finals right we done? Well, we done. Talked about the finals right, we done. Talked about rookies. I'm going to just get right to it. Fellas, there's a lot of people in the WNBA that's cool to watch. Who's your most exciting player to watch? Nick, we'll start with you.
Speaker 4:Well watching the finals. I mean Cordy Williams, she is lightning quick. She is so entertaining to watch. I have not seen a WNBA player with a crossover that was that quick. I don't want to go full shades of Tim Hardaway Sr because the UTEP two-step was just one of one, but I mean I think it was game one or something like that. She broke somebody's ankles, unfortunately. I think she passed and couldn't get the assist. Always messing up the highlights, people.
Speaker 1:She got the ankle. She got the ankles, she got the ankles.
Speaker 4:I remember even being like out loud to nobody. I was like woo, she's definitely tough, she's got some of the best hands, some of the best quickness. I've seen some of the best ball control that I've seen at WNBA.
Speaker 1:I was not expecting Courtney Williams to be said as most exciting. I appreciate that too. Shout out, Courtney. Shout out to you, Courtney. We love that too. Shout out, Courtney. You know what I'm saying. Shout out to you, Courtney. We love you, girl, Because she's a bucket. I said she's for me my sixth woman of the year, If we could throw in that Because she gives me that Jamal Crawford vibe right. And you mentioned something interesting about Tim's crossover, right, Right, and I think we got that quickness of the Tim crossover but the build of Jamal Crawford and they both could score. So I think all of them are in a similar cloth. I appreciate that one. That was a pretty good one, that was a pretty good one.
Speaker 4:I mean, only one of those two could shake and bake though. Okay, listen, the day Courtney Williams shakes and bakes, I'll buy a jersey the day. If she breaks out a shake and bake first of all, she better not do it against Chicago, look go to Chicago and shake and bake that's what he heard and he'll buy the jersey.
Speaker 1:I don't know if that's motivating enough, but maybe, if you buy the jersey, she'll go to Chicago and shake and bake.
Speaker 3:One of y'all got it. One of y'all got a real good why was it?
Speaker 1:one of y'all got a risky for the biscuit? That's what we hear. Chris, who's your most exciting WNBA player? And if it's Courtney Williams, I'm get 10 seconds talking after that. We'll push it, but if, if not, flow is yours.
Speaker 2:Enrique Ogunwale.
Speaker 1:Eh.
Speaker 4:No, I'm playing now.
Speaker 1:Enrique's solid bro. Enrique's a good one too. When did you become a fan of Enrique, though?
Speaker 2:You know when she was at Notre Dame and the way that she lived Notre Dame. Yes, she went to Stanford. No, she went to Notre.
Speaker 1:Dame, she went to Stanford. No, I'm playing. She went to Stanford, we're not doing that.
Speaker 4:Don't refuse the casual, please.
Speaker 2:I need all the help I can get. Don't do this today, but no, like I've been a fan ever since she was at Notre Dame Literally got that team to upset, win over UConn, and then turned around and won the national championship on a buzzer beater. Literally from like that point on, she has been one of my favorite, favorite, favorite WNBA players to watch.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, yeah, I love Rike. I love Rike. She's good people Took a picture with me and everything. She didn't like the picture. She did not like the picture, but you were in it.
Speaker 3:I thought about that that was my third thought.
Speaker 1:That was my third thought. Nah, rike's been electrifying, bro. Wnba All-Star game. She put belt to tail and I'm like we got to throw her in the Team USA selections at some point in time because she's that good and she's still young, so like we got to get her on the team for 2028. We got to get her on the team for 2028. Because I need some scoring to help out with just a little bit. Just a little bit. But she can also play make too. Because I don't want too much focus on my exciting player and I did rethink it for a smidge, but it's Brianna Stewart. For me, it's Brianna Stewart. When we talk about college and WNBA, there's not too many players like her.
Speaker 2:Men or women?
Speaker 1:You know what I'm talking about. Men or women Like she did, something that New York has been salivating for for the longest Helped bring them a championship.
Speaker 3:And again.
Speaker 1:Jonquell Jones was the finals MVP too, so I'm not trying to slight them at all, but Stewie, for me, was my most exciting player. Like easily could potentially go down as the GOAT of the WNBA.
Speaker 3:I know we talk about Asia.
Speaker 1:Wilson, but the start of Breanna Stewart's career. Sheesh Like what.
Speaker 2:No, honestly. Honestly, like I didn't mean to cut you off, you did, but I appreciate it. But, like you said, like they don't, they talk about Stewart but they don't talk about her enough. Like they do with Asia Anika, like all I said. Like they like a neck, like all I said, like they like talk about, like other players I said other players or stuff like that but they never give the love that Rihanna's Stewie Stewie should have because, like you said, they I will say they did because I remember, like in the bubble specifically, they were hyping up Rihanna.
Speaker 1:Because I remember in the bubble, specifically, they were hyping up Rihanna Stewart. I remember that because her start was ridiculous. She came in 2016, already won an MVP and then has two titles Like bro, what are we doing? You know what I'm saying? So that start is crazy and we forget she's 29 years old. Asia Wilson is 28. Did I say that right? Did I get that right? Let me make sure before I but they're around the same age, though, bro.
Speaker 1:No she's 28, like I said. So we got two time champion and two time champion around the same age. We're hyping up Asia Wilson because of the deep poise I do get that too. But we also got to remember Brianna Stewart and the start she had. They just beat the aces to win this championship too not in the finals, but to get to the finals. So there's a case to say that you know what she might be rattling off some more chips and we still not even talking about in college when she rattled off a gang of them Now UConn dominant. She was the best player on UConn. On a dominant team. She was the best player. If she weren't on that squad, I don't know if they'd win that many titles.
Speaker 4:I think when you're a superstar, there is the potential to kind of be the league kind of or me or whoever's talking kind of can take it for granted especially when you have somebody who's like new, newly on, like center stage. Right, asia wilson is the you know reigning mvp, won multiple championships more recently like uh, well, not anymore, but you know, up until very recently. So there's only so much time one can talk about the top tier, the top tier of the league. So there is that sort of potential for Brianna Stewart, especially since she came into the league on fire and has since sort of continued that but not really been sort of consistent. And now it's like oh, oh, asa Wilson's now winning all these MVPs, so we're going to talk more about her what have you done for me lately?
Speaker 4:exactly. That being said, you're the big WNBA fan on this panel. You're supposed to be the one with the deep cut for most exciting player, and you come out here with maybe the second biggest star in the league.
Speaker 1:I'm a Stewie fan, bro. It's just like if you ask me who's my most exciting NBA player to watch, kd and Steph Curry still those are my favorite players and Breanna Stewart, for me, is the Kevin Durant of the WNBA. That's fair. So it's like I'm sorry. I felt bad too. When y'all said Courtney, I was like that's a good one. He was like yeah, I was like ooh.
Speaker 4:Yeah the casual has the deeper cut Terrible.
Speaker 1:No, it is what it is. It is what it is, but like mine is. I've been watching her for some time. Now I will say when Paige comes into the league, it might be Paige that might be my favorite player. She's got some. Yeah, I do watch. I do like her game from an all-around perspective, but there are so many WNBA players to be excited about. That's why I did hate the notion that Kaitlyn Clark was the reason why we're watching WNBA. There was a few of us before here. Now hold on. I understand she brought in a lot of value. Now let's see what happens next year, because I'm curious if we can say, oh well, we're only watching because of Kaitlyn Clark, because she's not the best player. She's not. I'm sorry. There's other reasons to watch the WNBA outside of Kaitlyn Clark. Now, outside of Angel Reads. You just mentioned somebody who I've called the sixth woman of the year At least the best sixth woman. That's not a star, but at the same time she's a really good player.
Speaker 4:And people forget Paige Becker's. Caitlin Fever kind of took over during her last year in college. I took over, but Paige Becker's since her freshman year no no.
Speaker 1:Since high school year she was re-anointed. She was number one, cameron Brink was number two, two and Caitlin was three. I think she might have been a little lower but like her and Angel, I think, and Angel Reese was higher as well.
Speaker 3:Was, angel was three.
Speaker 1:I think Angel was two. Angel was two. Cameron might have been third or fourth something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Angel was two and Cameron was three, yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1:So it's like there are all these other rookies that we can definitely be putting some eyes on from an excitement standpoint. You're focusing on the game. If you're focusing solely on their game, what do you guys think?
Speaker 4:I mean and also like, if not for the injuries, we would also probably be talking about AZ.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? And we ain't even got to Juju yet, putting up 15 billion points a game.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Hey, come on, bro, I was really about to. Y'all heard that the buzzer went off, unfortunately, dang. That's kind of a downer right there. I like this episode, dude. This was a good one, nick, it sounds like we got to bring you back onto the show and watch a little bit more WNBA, because, ladies and gentlemen, he did not watch WNBA initially, but this season he gave it a go run. Fair to say you'll repeat and watch him again. Yeah, I.
Speaker 4:Fair to say, you'll repeat and watch him again. Yeah, I mean, I'm sorry I wasn't there from the beginning. I wasn't born yet. What year?
Speaker 1:did you start watching smartass?
Speaker 4:No, I started watching. I think I started paying casual attention, like really really casual passing attention to the WNBA, probably around when I started watching basketball in general, but I haven't really started watching games Until like last year okay, okay, gotcha, gotcha and it is.
Speaker 1:You said earlier, it was exciting, it was a good season.
Speaker 4:Sounds like you'll watch it again, so yeah, see, aside from some NBA fans, I actually like basketball, there it goes there it goes.
Speaker 1:So, ladies and gentlemen, uh, we were able to help convert a I guess you said casual fan I'm using his words into more of a WNBA fan. So I hope you all are paying attention. I hope you all convert, just like Nick did. But more important well, I guess maybe not more important I ain't trying to be selfish but almost as importantly, you can definitely like this show and follow along as well. Did you boys have anything you want to say before we close up shop?
Speaker 2:Thank you, thank you, thank you to the W. This was probably one of the best damn seasons. I can say, and you can say too. We have, for the longest times talking about sellout. I said sellout arenas. One of the best in rookies class. I can say probably like a high minute.
Speaker 1:A high minute.
Speaker 2:And we're grading this one of the greatest WNBA finals, as well as two Mm-hmm. I mean, all I can say is keep doing it, keep doing it, keep doing it and please, please, please, show these women some love. Definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1:Let's see. Do you want to sneak anything extra cool?
Speaker 4:If not like, comment and subscribe. Try to steal my bit, okay, like he said, like the smart man said please like, subscribe, comment.
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Speaker 1:Hey, would you call Bill Clinton it? I'll call him light-skinned.
Speaker 4:Okay, what about Ernie Johnson, though? Mmm, yeah.
Speaker 1:There you go. Ernie can go to the cookout.
Speaker 4:He has a few, all right. Is Ernie Johnson white or black?
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:All right, take I guess technically two, but still one. I mean, we tried, but you know.
Speaker 4:The clapper was like this and he had to like